Ethics Conditions: Have they ever worked?

"Magoo" <Magoo44@charter.net>
Ethics Conditions: Have they ever worked?
14 Dec 2003

Has anyone who has tried to use "Ethics Conditions" actually had any true excellent changed from these conditions? I remember doing them, and for sure now OSA can say, "AH HA! Her Ethics were never in, thus the tech never went in".

Well, I can say this to them:

If you're here lying, hiding, pretending to be someone you are not, you are doing WAY worse things than I ever did, and your Ethics are far lower. So you are not the people I'm speaking with.

While I was there, I always did what I felt I needed to do to make sure "My ethics were in". However, now in looking back.... what was all of that?

I did years of "Conditions" both high ones and lower ones (all the time while on OT 7, for "going out security" for forgetting to lock one window in the Sandcastle room, while Solo auditing, etc.)

Did it really help? The only condition I ever really found great help with was Non-Existence, when new to an area:

"Find a comm line.
Make yourself known.
Find out what's needed and wanted.
Do, produce or present it".

(which, by the way, is basic common sense).

All the rest I guess I thought I had some kind of gain, but in looking back, not really. Lowers were totally BS.

" Confusion: Find out that you are". Ya, sure. Let's see...

OH! I'm TORY!
OH! I'm a Scientologist!
Oh! blah blah blah.

Zero help. You can say, "Well, she must still be in confusion". No, I ended any and all confusion the day I spotted what Horseshit this trap really is, took back my life, and left.

Soooo I was curious though, from others who applied conditions:

A) Do you have any real true "wins" or gains while using these "Ethics" conditions? If so, how did it change your life really?

What were some of the super idiotic ones?

I'd love to hear some of these stories, both pro and con, or if you had any gains or now see them as something else.

I know one thing for sure, which I put together early on in Scientology: The PTS/SP tech is full of S***! I knew this as I had a medical condition, and just because of that, for years, and years, people randomly gave me intensely "wrong indications" labeling me what they thought I was, incorrectly.

Exp: "You're not allowed on the Flag Land base!" I wanted to jump across the table and yell at the 15-year old Italian Sea org member and say: I AM NOT??

F*** YOU, IDIOT! But I couldn't as then they'd say I was " Type 3" Like Lisa.

I knew enough to keep it together.... thank GOD.

Instead I did my Al Pacino Taxi Driver Routine, "You talkin to ME???" (Looking back around the room, over and over). It worked! (It wasn't until I left C of$ that I found out the real reason that happened: Some person DID die a few weeks early who was at Flag, had the same condition I had, and they took him off of his medication. So right away, I arrive, and the solution? Kick her off the base.)

I ended up taking the entire Flag Landbase Tech team to the Cleaners sent my folders to RTC and got them ALL corrected on Medicine, so I did kick some ass there. Was that due to any "Ethics conditions"? Hell no. That was me, Tory, saying this is Bullshit and I'm NOT taking it, anymore.

However, I also made sure to keep looking, and that I'm quite sure now is why I am free.

I welcome your in put. It might help others see the BS they're buying, too.

My best,

Tory/Magoo ~in the light~ In Scientology for 30 years Out for 3 years, 4 months happily For thinking and speaking my mind, I am: Declared SP (SP 6 ^with Cumulative Cluster) Expelled from C of S (Woooo hoooo!) :) A Free Speech Advocate! Free at last!!!

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